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  • needhelp!
    09-29 11:08 AM
    This year 4 of my cla*s mates (from engineering college in India) have moved out of the US.I have one other cla*smate who had picked a position in Singapore over one being offered in the US two years back, and he already has his PR there.He did not want the uncertainty of not know what to call home even after 5 or 8 or 10 years.He called it "settling down".

    When we were graduating from engineering college, there was peer pressure to come to the US and pursue higher education and the "American Dream".Now I feel like my time to head out may come sooner rather than later.




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  • Refugee_New
    01-06 02:27 PM
    Refugee_New,

    It all depends on people's mind.You don't need to answer me, and I am sure you are pure by heart as my many muslim friends.

    It depends where your bias is.Are you (you means in general people, not you particularly) biased to religion or you are biased to humanity!When a christian or hindu gets killed, if it doesn't pain you as much when a muslim gets killed, you are more biased towards religion.

    People are biased towards religion often shelter under humanity sentences to prove their point.But quite ofter they become onesided.Like People were igniting fire crackers in Pakistan when Mumbai ma*sacre happened.When one of them gets killed, they shout on name of humanity.

    My sympathies are with poor innocent kids of palestine got killed.

    But people should come out and unshelter terrorists who live in civilian facilities.Same as Dawood & Azhar Masood.People want to harbour them but them if other country takes military action to capture them and some civilians killed because they were in civilian area, it is bad to shout on name of humanity.BECAUSE IN THAT CASE THEY ARE REALLY NOT INNOCENT.

    It pained me a lot when terrorist struck Mumbai and i did condemn the mindless killing just like fellow Indian and Indian Muslim.Don't you think Muslims in India united and showed their unity and condemned Pakistan?

    Don't compare terrorists like Dawood and Masood Azhar with those who are elected democratically by people of their nation.




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  • nojoke
    04-15 06:18 PM
    kaiserose & NKR have made some mistakes by buying a costly home & wouldn't admit.

    May God Bless you guys.

    :D:D




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  • lfwf
    08-05 07:12 PM
    Good points below.

    Now, FreshEb2, through the handle itself, comes across as a stoker not a sensible person.

    EB2 and EB3 are two very different EMPLOYMENT BASED legal immigration categories.Filing in one category DOES NOT PRECLUDE one from filing in another category, for another *future* job, as long the *future* jobs themselves meet the criteria to qualify for that EB category.

    Coming to tihnk of, the coward parading as RollingFlood has not posted his/her company, EB job posting, and other pieces of information that I had challenged him/her to post.Seriously you coward, come out and post it...this community can help validate whether there really is no US worker to take that position.Now, dont chicken out and fillibuster this with more weak arguments.Post your glorified EB2 job posting for all of us to see ...and let us see if you have illegally gotten ahead in the line ahead of all those hardworking US citizens that have been laid off in the last 2 quarters across all major sectors.C'mon, do it ...do it...

    Also, somewhere you had said that you were an MBA from a top US university.Welcome to the club.Though, I am sad to share the boat with you!Now, look back at the essay you wrote to get into B-School.Are you doing exactly what you claimed you would do after the MBA?Shall we take that up and go back to the school to have them rescind your diploma because you misused the system?One can say you got into an MBA on a fundamentally false premise.So, give back that diploma.

    Also, did you come into the country on a F1 visa?What did you tell the visa officer?That you were going back to your home country, right?Didnt you need to show proof of ties to your home country.Can we take you to court stating that you committed a felony by lying to a Government official regarding matters of homeland security?Seriously.Why not?

    No amount trying to sub-optimize logic to fit your specific narrow needs will make your holier-than-thou arguments even remotely credible, let alone valid in a court of law.What is clear from this 10 page thread, is that we have a few folks like FreshEB2, RollingFlood etc that present themselves as 'high skilled' workers in the US immigration system but clearly lack the basic level of logic to have a factual conversation.Their ladders of inferences are stark and substantive.

    By sub-optimally picking 'argument points' based the 'weakest links' that you invent and trying to super-size that to reflect a larger interest is very weak attempt to preserve your position.

    Go ahead, file a lawsuit.Tell us which case will be hearing it and give us the case number.I WILL PERSONALLY MAKE SURE THAT THE JUDGE ASKS FOR YOUR IMMIGRATION FILE AND CONDUCT A PRIMA FACIE INQUIRY INTO THE BASIS OF YOUR PRIMARY PETITION, INCLUDING ALL ASPECTS LIKE ADVERTISEMENT, NUMBER OF RESUMES RECEIVED, etc..I WILL FILE A PETITION WITH THE JUDGE TO HAVE ANOTHER ADVERTISEMENT POSTED, THIS TIME, WITH RESPONSES TO BE EXAMINED BY THE JUDGE and NOT YOUR FAVORITE IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY.SERIOUSLY.BRING IT ON.WE SHOULD RESPOND TO YOU IN COURT.WHETHER CIVIL OR IMMIGRATION.

    You had also mentioned that you would be filing a 'public interest litigation'.That is a very Indian concept.PIL type cases work differently in the US.You dont just run to your local court and claim 'PIL' because you felt wronged.Any court in the US would deem your case as narrowly defined to challenge legislation and throw you out because judiciary cannot legislate.

    Obviously, you grossly underestimated the intellect of this group and thought your big words and b-board bravado would scare people.:D



    OP is long gone.Your post is full of big brave words and no substance.If you want to have a discussion and demonstrate your "intellect", please make some rational arguments and back them up.There is no lawsuit discussion here, just a debate on the merits of BS+5 PD porting



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  • thomachan72
    03-23 01:31 PM
    You/lawyer/employer may have forgotten to shred the extra/unwanted documents.Someone may have got hold of them.

    Google 'identity theft' and you will be surprised.

    Do not answer anyone unless you check.Ask for a call back number.Find the name , badge number.ask them to send you an email with a legit id and you will call back.

    You should anyways never talk alone to such people even if they are real.Ask them to talk to your lawyer.If they ask you his number, tell them to find from the application.

    Basically never give any information on the phone.

    Easier said than done :-) Well a lot of us are waiting anxiously for some activity on the USCIS side regarding our petitions and suddenly you get a call!!!Wow, I am sure a lot of us would panic and give out exactly what they want.Now whether immigration officials are permitted to make calls?who knows?But honestly we are in a screw either way.What is the official is genuinely trying to help and we start asking him..Give me your number and let me call back.what if he/she is ofended (most often that can happen).On the other hand if as you said, if it happens to be a ID theif/crook, if you give him all that he wants :-(
    Why dont we prepare ourselves for such events:---
    when you get a call from Immigration---
    1) Dont loose your cool 2) be very polite and ask politely "Sir / madam, may I obtain a phone number that I can call back and I will do that immediately or at your convenience.I have waited long and would provide you with all the details that you require on calling back.
    Any "English" experts, please contribute to better way of answering the "Unexpected" phone calls from immigration dept.We should be prepared to not loose their initiative (that little angel that rests deep within any persons heart).




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  • nogc_noproblem
    08-07 12:30 PM
    Thanks for the compliments.

    H1B, Labor, I140, I485, EAD, AP, PD, RD, ND, VB, RFE Sucks man, had enough.

    In fact I am so relaxed and laughed many times for the past 2 days.I read so many jokes and picked the good ones, I really enjoyed doing this.

    Thanks for all those for their encouragement, positive comments and yes, Green dots.

    If the trend continues, I think very soon I can beat Pappu in terms of number of green dots (Ssssssss!!!don’t let Pappu know about this till then, ok :))


    nogc_noproblem , u r 5 star *****



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  • Refugee_New
    01-06 03:02 PM
    Israel is fully justified in responding to the rocket attacks from Gaza.How long can they show restraint by not responding to the unprovoked attacks.Do you think US will remain silent, if Canada were to lob rockets into US.Asbolutely not.Every country has the right to protect itself.
    Hamas is such a coward orgn that they hide behind school, mosque, hospitals to shoot their rockets, so they really are luring israel to bomb those areas.Unfortunately innocents die...the blame should be on hamas.In fact, before bombing Israel even goes to the extent of calling and texting people in the target area to warn them before bombing.which country at war you know does that.Inspite of all these the biased media portrays Israel as the evil one.time to think.if only india shows some courage like that.

    Another muslim hater who justify organized crime and killing and support the killing of innocent school kids and civilians.

    Hiding behind civilians and schools and mosques????Don't you hear the same lie again and again year over year?If Hamas is using school kids as thier shield, then how do you think Palestenian people have elected the same people who cause their kids death rule their country?

    Don't you think?




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  • I have not read all the mails.However, I want to express very naive thoughts (without a reading bias from previous mails) for now.I might reconsider some notions by the weekend until I am satisfied.

    I have studied Obama, CIR and immigrants plights all these years.Here is what I think could be positive:

    Obama is the kind of leader whao gets at the bottom the issues and tries to do the right thing (Watch Clinton's Florida speech, Oct 01, 2008 as to why he likes Obama!).He has the leadership skills and the strength of character to sway enough votes for any legislation including CIR.To me, so far he has shown Lincolnian charm.He is a serious guy who wants to do the right thing.

    He would try to balance middle cla*s american families and unemployment situation.When close to half a millions jobs are lost, it is illconceivable for anybody to push for immigration reform eventhough we may be on the right side of justice and victim of broken system.

    There may be some tough situations for immigrants such as less outsourcing, american worker priority and other programs to promote STEM within the company.However, he will be the person to stand up for plights of tech workers.He understands the need and benefits of tech-immigration.As far as I know, his voting for H1 and CIR has been positive.It will be Obama and not someone elase whao will decide the policy.Durbin might tie the loose ends.

    My feeling is this: Let us trust this man.Explain to him through IV and any other channels our problems and how it impacts present and future of America.If we could successfully argue (by all pure means) for a "A business model where tech-immigrants bring benefits and rate of returns in a much higher and a*sured fashion than the stock market", we could win this debate.

    We are dealing with reasonable, smart and patriotic people.We need to continue to explore better methods to effectively communicate and win the deal.It is all about intellectual exercise to win a deal....

    It is always prudent to have back up plans, however, it should not distract us too much.

    haven't we agreed that GC is only worth so much and we do not want to have our life hostage to GC.At the same time, timely GC status gives better control of our career and discharging our family obliations.Sooner is better.However, we could do only so much.

    Let us continue to do our best and hopefully with a new administration, we would learn new equations.

    I trust in the ability of IV and IV-sympathetic constituencies to bring us deserved reward and recognition sooner rather than later.

    Staying positive, continuing to learn (lobbying and swaying), adapting to the environment (what are the business needs of main street and wall street and how leaders perceive those) and doing our best (use best of our minds and achess game of life.....a special gift of God to Indians and others) and learn to be happy.

    Remember, this is the first stroke of my pen....I might revisit and reconsider some thoughts based on what most others are thinking.



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  • sledge_hammer
    03-24 12:26 PM
    I have full sympathy for anyone that has not broken any laws including OP and 'leoindiano".If I had the powers to approve green cards, I would give them away to him and his brother!

    The problem here is no one (consulting company/employee) bothered to make sure that a person on H-1B was allowed to do consulting.I'm not sure who dropped the ball - companies, employees, or the immigration lawyers.But someone should have raised a flag when the type of job was really a temp job.Unfortunately that did not happen.

    Now that the damage has been done, and USCIS is coming after such folks, they are upset that it is happening to them.Again, do note that I am not saying the consultants themselves are less skilled than anyone with FT job.I'm just saying that at the time they got into consulting they did not think of the various consequences.Maybe because no one ever thought that working at different locations, benching, temp nature of the jobs were all against H-1B visa rules?

    You get my point?

    face it as long as the economy is tanking this is going to be an ongoing debate.Everything goes thorugh stages of high and low and we are now expereincing the lows of having the h1b's.

    Sledge While your points are valid, remember folks do not choose consulting (nor do students) as a first choice but I have friends who were employed without any issues directly with client companies who in the midst of recession decide to fire everyone.What are you options if your GC is denied because the company declared bankruptcy?How do you justify to yourself staying with the employer when they files you under Eb3 category when you a master's degree holder from one of the 10 best universities in the US?What are the employee choices here, just pack up and leave?leave houses, friends and people you stayed with many years.

    You think they haven't searched for full time positions with other companies only to be turned back?or worse case restart the entire GC process and forgo the 6+ years?

    And the experiences I am relating are from the 2001 recession.I have already seen history repeat itself now but my more fear is that tomorrow USCIS will unfortunately hit the person who followed all the rules After all how is the USCIS knowing which are the good companies and which are bad?These very things are happening and very much can happen to you as well.Do not sit on a high perch and think it will not trickle down to me




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  • Macaca
    08-14 11:37 AM
    Congressman, It's (Still) on Us: The Ethics Law's Many Looph*les (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/13/AR2007081300980.html?hpid=topnews) By Jeffrey H.Birnbaum | Washington Post, August 14, 2007

    Activists on the reform side of the lobbying debate have been celebrating that Congress finally got around to pa*sing an ethics bill.The question is: Should voters celebrate as well?

    Paul A.Miller, a former president of the American League of Lobbyists, thinks the hoorahs should be muted, and he has a point.The legislation bars lobbyists from providing meals and gifts to lawmakers, a provision long sought by the advocates of change as a way to keep well-heeled interests from buying their way into the hearts of decision-makers.

    But Miller and others point out that the ban is full of looph*les.The largest of the gaps, Miller said, could end up worsening the public's perception that lawmakers are for sale.

    If lobbyists are prevented from buying meals for lawmakers for lobbying purposes, he noted, lobbyists will almost certainly make up for the loss by boosting the number of meals they buy lawmakers as part of campaign fundraising events.

    And believe it or not, they will be perfectly able to do so.Lobbying laws are separate from campaign finance laws, and the new ban on meals and gifts applies only to lobbying laws.That means the legislation does not rein in fundraising events, so lobbyists and their clients will still be able to buy food and entertainment for lawmakers at those events.

    Hence the following perversity: Lobbyists will not be able to pick up the check for members of Congress unless they also hand the lawmakers a check to help their reelections.

    "Lobbyists will move lunches and dinners to the campaign side of things," Miller predicts."They will increasingly get members of Congress for an hour or so to give them a campaign check; that's a better deal for the lobbyists and will also make it more likely for corruption to happen."

    Jan W.Baran, the campaign finance expert at the law firm Wiley Rein, finds it hard to imagine that lawmakers can schedule more fundraisers than they already do.But he does think there will continue to be plenty of lobbyist-financed partying thanks to the nearly two dozen exceptions to the meal-and-gift ban.

    Baran said that members of Congress will be able to accept invitations from lobbyists to events that are widely attended, including receptions and charity golf tournaments.Lobbyists will also still be allowed to underwrite visits by lawmakers if they have some official or ceremonial role.Members of Congress generally cannot accept tickets to sporting events from lobbyists.But they can be comped to a baseball game if they throw out the first pitch, to a football game if they toss the opening coin or to a NASCAR race if they wave the checkered flag.That's nice work if you can get it, and you can bet there'll be a lot more of it available soon.

    Interest groups are also expressing concern about another feature of the legislation.The provision would require more disclosure by organizations about who is paying for and actively participating in the lobbying activities of coalitions and trade groups.At the moment, most of that information is proprietary and protected by Supreme Court decisions that shield the members of many kinds of groups.Organizations are worried that they might, for the first time, have to disclose who their top members are.

    But they probably need not worry.Ways are always found to get around laws like this one."The balloon will be pressed, and the air will come out another way," said Kenneth A.Gross, a lawyer at Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom.



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